it since you KNOW you were lying and further causing damage to a
company that has up until this point, been nothing but supportive.
--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" <theo570@...> wrote:
>
> I whole heartedly agree! I really did not want to make that post
but
> the dog can only lay in the shade getting kicked for so long. ooPic
> problems I can handle, SI problems I can handle but when it starts
to
> get personal I bite back.
>
> Now that we can start to move along... I am looking for content for
> the all new and improved SI Robot Projects website. I need blurbs
and
> pics of any and all ooPic, Soundgin etc based projects. I do hope
the
> users community has something. Your projects do not need to be
robots
> by common definition, just simply ooPic based circuits are cool. If
> you can try to include source code. Please post under the topic of
> ROBOT PROJECTS so I can find em' easily.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted
> Savage Innovations
>
>
> --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "tinslwc" <tinslwc@> wrote:
> >
> > This should not be posted in a public forum. There is nothing
> > beneficial to the OOPIC community here. It is quite obivious
that
> we
> > are all frustrated. Savage has said that he will fix the oEvent
> for
> > us which is the main thing that we wanted.
> >
> > So, why don't we get this forum back to helping people with
> problems
> > that we can fix and keep the politics to a minimum. We have
people
> > here with years of knowledge and when we collaborate, we can do
> > anything.
> >
> > --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" <theo570@> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK Jess,
> > >
> > > You are going to try and bring this public and so far I have
> > resisted
> > > but what the hell, even I get mad after awhile.
> > >
> > > 1 - The Bot Shop was in trouble (by your own words via phone)
> LONG
> > > before I was offered a partnership in SI.
> > >
> > > 2 - "New guy" and "this guy"? Is that to give the public the
> > > impression that we have not worked together off and on for say
5
> > > maybe 6 years?
> > >
> > > 3 - We didn't seem to miserable when we were laughing and
joking
> at
> > > Scotts expense a few months ago on the phone.
> > >
> > > 4 - Anything you claim unpaid was before me becoming a partner
so
> > how
> > > does that fit? Actually it goes back to the partnership with
> > Pentar...
> > >
> > > 5 - None of your graphics were hijacked because none were
> selected
> > > for use. You did make a killer blister pack art package,
> > > unfortunately we are not using a blister pack. If we were, we
> would
> > > be using it. I did call Gates and nope, no one ever agreed to
pay
> > for
> > > that if it was unused.
> > >
> > > 6 - the umm 1986 web design... LOL IT IS YOUR WORK. Yes we will
> > > indeed change it as the new one is about done. I don't think we
> can
> > > claim that one unpaid and we both know why... let that dog
sleep.
> > >
> > > 7 - Yea, I know you are pissed that the EDU board did not sell
> thus
> > > your manual did not get used. We can't help it if a product was
a
> > > dismal flop. What did we sell, 10 - 15. I know there are over a
> > > hundred in stock for the last year. You are not the only one
not
> > > getting paid on the EDU board. I spent 6 months trying to find
a
> > > vendor or a school to buy them... Do keep in mind the SI EDU
> board
> > > was in the works way before I even brought the ooBug to the
table
> > and
> > > even then I thought it was a silly product, almost a backstep
if
> > you
> > > will. I never expected it to sell and said as much to SI and
> Pentar.
> > >
> > > 8 - It was just a few months ago when you and I had a long
phone
> > call
> > > and most of the topic was the failing of TBS. Did I not offer
you
> > all
> > > of my ooBug mod kit ideas and did I not agree to not sell them
> > myself
> > > if it would help YOU out?
> > >
> > > Jess, you are acting like someone dropped you and it just never
> > > happened. Do not take out your frustrations on me because you
are
> > > having business financial woes. We have been e or phone friends
> for
> > > quite awhile.
> > >
> > > Ted
> > > Savage Innovations
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "jesicaflow" <jesicaflow@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am probably closing down The BotShop due to this whole
mess.
> > New
> > > > guy has been miserable to deal with. I have completed unpaid
> > > projects
> > > > and started new ones (which I am no longer working on) only
to
> > have
> > > > them hijacked and/ or bastardized by him. I'm over it just
as
> > much
> > > > as the customers are.
> > > >
> > > > I'm so sorry you guys are having to deal with this
frustration.
> > > >
> > > > --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "theo570" <theo570@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > David there is no double speak at all as you put it. It is
> > simply
> > > a
> > > > > matter of economics.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you would have read all of my posts I did state I will
try
> > and
> > > > get
> > > > > SS to look into oEvents again if nothing else to put the
> > compiler
> > > > to
> > > > > bed happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jessica as The Bot Shop has been a great outlet for
SI/ooPic
> > and
> > > > > still is until she states differently. Yes, she has
excellent
> > CS
> > > > and
> > > > > Yes we have crappy CS. We can get better, thats where I get
> to
> > > come
> > > > > in. Try to put out fires before they burn. Jessica was the
> > first
> > > > and
> > > > > still first listed outlet for the ooBug because of her
> efforts
> > > and
> > > > > CS. She will be a retailer for the ooBug until I see a
letter
> > or
> > > > > email from her stating otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we just can't do it for you then we are sorry. We will
try
> > and
> > > > > make the next guy happy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ted
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, dldlhfd@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jesica at The Bot Shop,
> > > > > > I purchased an OOpic-C chip and board from you in
> > November
> > > > of
> > > > > 07.
> > > > > > Through no fault of yours the product did not work as
> > > > advertised.
> > > > > I thought and
> > > > > > OOpic tech support thought that it was a hardware
problem.
> > You
> > > > > were kind enough
> > > > > > to replace it for me. Then we found out it was really
the
> > > > > compiler. Savage
> > > > > > promised a fix by May 08. Now it is August 08 and Savage
> > > > > industries just sent
> > > > > > the OOpic forum the following comments:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2 - All previous version of ooPic ie. S,R and C will be
> > > > considered
> > > > > > > > legacy products at this time and will no longer be
> > > > > manufactured.
> > > > > > In
> > > > > > > > addition we will be no longer supporting these items.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3 - All versions of the compiler will also go on the
> > > > > unsupported
> > > > > > > > legacy list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I write this Ted is on the forum trying to do some
> double
> > > > speak
> > > > > about how
> > > > > > they have to abandon these products because they just
> don't
> > > sell
> > > > > anymore.
> > > > > > They only sold two in July.
> > > > > > I don't expect you to bad mouth any product or
company
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > that's bad
> > > > > > business, But for the customers sake would you please
have
> > > > anybody
> > > > > that is
> > > > > > thinking about choosing between a OOpic and something
else
> > to
> > > > > please read the
> > > > > > OOpic forum on Yahoo to get a clear picture of the kind
of
> > > > support
> > > > > that they
> > > > > > will get.
> > > > > > Thank you again for your help David Davis
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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