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Saturday, August 23, 2008

[oopic] Digest Number 3918

There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
From: Steve
1b. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
From: Ian Drennan

2a. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
From: Mike Martin
2b. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
From: richard@trikky2.com
2c. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
From: dettmerg

3. Wipro/Satyam/Oracle/Reliance - Freshers & Experienced
From: Jaya Priya

4a. So there IS life ... !
From: Phil Tilson
4b. Re: So there IS life ... !
From: stantibbs1
4c. Re: So there IS life ... !
From: Dave Warner
4d. Re: So there IS life ... !
From: red71956

5.1. Re: recovery jumper
From: stantibbs1
5.2. Re: recovery jumper
From: stantibbs1

6a. Re: Daisy MP3 serial control
From: design.wonk

7. OoPic and Basic Atom
From: red71956

8a. oopic 2 vB1.0?
From: ckelly.alternate
8b. Re: oopic 2 vB1.0?
From: ray xu
8c. Re: oopic 2 vB1.0?
From: ckelly.alternate

9. usb-to-R?
From: ckelly.alternate


Messages
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1a. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
Posted by: "Steve" stevefifielduk@yahoo.co.uk stevefifielduk
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:41 am ((PDT))

I've just found following on the ooPic web site:

An I2C Toolkit, with VB6 source code, can be downloaded from the
download page. When working with the I2C Tools, the OOPic programming
cable is used as an I2C cable, so no additional hardware is required.

Sounds good, but the VB6 source code example does not exist.

Anyone got any pointers or have the example code they could send me?

Thanks,

Steve


--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <stevefifielduk@...> wrote:
>
> I've just received my ooPic III+ starter package so plenty of fun in
> store for me!
> I've not had a lot to do with PIC / Robotics, etc before... I'm a
> mainframe Systems Programmer of 35 years standing (Z/os Assembler,
> etc)& just getting into this for a hobby.
>
> One thing hopefully someone could clear up for me... How do I go about
> & what would I need to interface ooPic with my Laptop?
>
> I understand how I can attach the parallel cable supplied & re-program
> it, but don't understand how I can exchange data between Laptop &
> ooPic while ooPic is running.
>
> Am I correct in assuming the parallel cable is just used for
> downloading new program to chip & so couldn't be used to interface
> when running ooPic?
>
> What happens when the program is downloaded to ooPic.. Does it start
> executing straight away, or only when the parallel cable is released?
> (I'm waiting for an old Laptop I ordered off eBay to turn up, my one,
> like most modern Laptops doesn't have serial or parallel interfaces (I
> tried a USB / Parallel port converter, but it didn't work)... so I
> can't try out yet).
> The manual I downloaded from ooPic site seems to have a lot of
> references to sections that are missing from the manual, as always
> they are the ones I need!
>
> I see ooPic supports I2C interface, but can't see how I would
> interface that to my Laptop ...an I2C PC network card if there is such
> a beast?
>
> If I2C is the way to do it, presumably I would have to have knock up
> something to monitor & react on the Laptop... Visual Basic prog?
> The sort of thing I have in mind is a voice synthesizer attached to
> ooPic & AI running on PC. PC would read state of ooPic attached
> sensors & chose appropriate response, send it to ooPic which would
> drive the voice chip.
>
> One route I might consider is Wireless or IR which would be good for a
> mobile project... but the cost seems out of proportion at the moment.
>
> Any help appreciated,
>
> Cheers,
> Steve.
>


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1b. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
Posted by: "Ian Drennan" ianid@sai.co.za iand242002
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:13 am ((PDT))

Steve wrote:
> I've just found following on the ooPic web site:
>
> An I2C Toolkit, with VB6 source code, can be downloaded from the
> download page. When working with the I2C Tools, the OOPic programming
> cable is used as an I2C cable, so no additional hardware is required.
>
> Sounds good, but the VB6 source code example does not exist.
>
> Anyone got any pointers or have the example code they could send me?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <stevefifielduk@...> wrote:
>
>> I've just received my ooPic III+ starter package so plenty of fun in
>> store for me!
>> I've not had a lot to do with PIC / Robotics, etc before... I'm a
>> mainframe Systems Programmer of 35 years standing (Z/os Assembler,
>> etc)& just getting into this for a hobby.
>>
>> One thing hopefully someone could clear up for me... How do I go about
>> & what would I need to interface ooPic with my Laptop?
>>
>> I understand how I can attach the parallel cable supplied & re-program
>> it, but don't understand how I can exchange data between Laptop &
>> ooPic while ooPic is running.
>>
>> Am I correct in assuming the parallel cable is just used for
>> downloading new program to chip & so couldn't be used to interface
>> when running ooPic?
>>
>> What happens when the program is downloaded to ooPic.. Does it start
>> executing straight away, or only when the parallel cable is released?
>> (I'm waiting for an old Laptop I ordered off eBay to turn up, my one,
>> like most modern Laptops doesn't have serial or parallel interfaces (I
>> tried a USB / Parallel port converter, but it didn't work)... so I
>> can't try out yet).
>> The manual I downloaded from ooPic site seems to have a lot of
>> references to sections that are missing from the manual, as always
>> they are the ones I need!
>>
>> I see ooPic supports I2C interface, but can't see how I would
>> interface that to my Laptop ...an I2C PC network card if there is such
>> a beast?
>>
>> If I2C is the way to do it, presumably I would have to have knock up
>> something to monitor & react on the Laptop... Visual Basic prog?
>> The sort of thing I have in mind is a voice synthesizer attached to
>> ooPic & AI running on PC. PC would read state of ooPic attached
>> sensors & chose appropriate response, send it to ooPic which would
>> drive the voice chip.
>>
>> One route I might consider is Wireless or IR which would be good for a
>> mobile project... but the cost seems out of proportion at the moment.
>>
>> Any help appreciated,
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve.
>>
>>
Steve
I don't have the oopic III+ but am using the Oopic II+ . Both these
chips have SCP (Serial Control Protocol) which is the easiest way to
interact with the oopic while it is running. I gave up with I2C and the
parallel cable when the II+ SCP chips became available as I2C was slow
and cumbersome in my experience.
Read up in the manual Chapter 16 which explains the serial commands to
use to talk to the oopic using SCP.
Take a look in the files section of this group where there are some
examples using SCP. Also there is a tool called SCP Configurator which I
wrote some years back which is a graphic interface which composes the
desired SCP command strings. It also has a built in terminal to transmit
the command string to the oopic.

There are USB to serial converter that do work but I know some do not
work. Check in the archives as this was discussed often. Serial is the
way to go.


Hope this helps

Ian


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2a. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
Posted by: "Mike Martin" xaviour2me@yahoo.com.au xaviour2me
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:49 am ((PDT))

No, some of us are still here lurking I suspect - but we're too
inexperienced to put our hand up. Could we share the work load on a
rotational basis?

Mike M.

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "ray xu" <rayxu@...> wrote:
>
> Wow this group is in ruins after the big argument. What ever
happened to
> Richard? Did the active people here all abandoned this group?
>
>
>
> ___________________
> Ray Xu
> rayxu@...
> DPRG <http://www.dprg.org> member
> OOPic <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/> group member
> Seattle <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/>
Robotics
> group member
> My Blog <http://rayxublogs.blogspot.com/>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Stan
> Brewer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:01 PM
> To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oopic] New Owner/Moderator needed
>
>
>
> Maybe someone will volunteer to become the new owner/moderator of
this
> group.
>
> Stan
>
> Jaya Priya wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Dear Members,
> >
> > Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)
> >
> > Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
> >
> > http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm
> > <http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> >
> > All The Best,
> > Support Team
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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2b. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
Posted by: "richard@trikky2.com" richard@trikky2.com richard6406
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:50 am ((PDT))

Hi Folks ( from the other Richard ),

Still here and lurking ... Not really done that much to
my project recently due to work ... But hopefully will
be back at it soon.

All the best.

Richard S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Martin" <xaviour2me@yahoo.com.au>
To: <oopic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:49 AM
Subject: [oopic] Re: New Owner/Moderator needed


> No, some of us are still here lurking I suspect - but we're too
> inexperienced to put our hand up. Could we share the work load on a
> rotational basis?
>
> Mike M.
>
> --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "ray xu" <rayxu@...> wrote:
>>
>> Wow this group is in ruins after the big argument. What ever
> happened to
>> Richard? Did the active people here all abandoned this group?
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________
>> Ray Xu
>> rayxu@...
>> DPRG <http://www.dprg.org> member
>> OOPic <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/> group member
>> Seattle <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/>
> Robotics
>> group member
>> My Blog <http://rayxublogs.blogspot.com/>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Stan
>> Brewer
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:01 PM
>> To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [oopic] New Owner/Moderator needed
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe someone will volunteer to become the new owner/moderator of
> this
>> group.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> Jaya Priya wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Members,
>> >
>> > Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)
>> >
>> > Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
>> >
>> > http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
> paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
>> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm
>> > <http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
> paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
>> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
>> >
>> > All The Best,
>> > Support Team
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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2c. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
Posted by: "dettmerg" dettmerg@yahoo.com dettmerg
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:43 am ((PDT))

Richard,

The list group administrator does not have to be an expert with the
OOPic. He just ensures that the members behave and deletes any rogue
members, especially those who spam the group.

Dennis is an OOPic expert. He's written a couple books on them. Savage
Innovations (Scott) paid him to be the technical support guy since SI
does not have any official support. Dennis was able to get assigned as
the group administrator in conjunction with the paid job because we
needed one at the time.

The group administrator and the OOPic technical support are two
separate functions. One, technical support, is paid by Savage. So, if
anyone is comfortable administrating/moderating the list group, it's
open (not paid).

As far as an official OOPic Technical Support person goes, Scott
Savage has to deal with that. This group OTH provides self taught
insights on its own.

I administer/own several Yahoo list groups, but I am too overloaded to
take on another one.

TTFN,

-Gary

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, <richard@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks ( from the other Richard ),
>
> Still here and lurking ... Not really done that much to
> my project recently due to work ... But hopefully will
> be back at it soon.
>
> All the best.
>
> Richard S.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Martin" <xaviour2me@...>
> To: <oopic@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:49 AM
> Subject: [oopic] Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
>
>
> > No, some of us are still here lurking I suspect - but we're too
> > inexperienced to put our hand up. Could we share the work load on a
> > rotational basis?
> >
> > Mike M.
> >
> > --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "ray xu" <rayxu@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow this group is in ruins after the big argument. What ever
> > happened to
> >> Richard? Did the active people here all abandoned this group?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ___________________
> >> Ray Xu
> >> rayxu@
> >> DPRG <http://www.dprg.org> member
> >> OOPic <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/> group member
> >> Seattle <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/>
> > Robotics
> >> group member
> >> My Blog <http://rayxublogs.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Stan
> >> Brewer
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:01 PM
> >> To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: [oopic] New Owner/Moderator needed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe someone will volunteer to become the new owner/moderator of
> > this
> >> group.
> >>
> >> Stan
> >>
> >> Jaya Priya wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dear Members,
> >> >
> >> > Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)
> >> >
> >> > Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
> >> >
> >> > http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
> > paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> >> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm
> >> > <http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
> > paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> >> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> >> >
> >> > All The Best,
> >> > Support Team
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>


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3. Wipro/Satyam/Oracle/Reliance - Freshers & Experienced
Posted by: "Jaya Priya" jaya_priya456@yahoo.com jaya_priya456
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:42 am ((PDT))

 

Dear Members,

Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)

Wipro/Satyam/Oracle/Reliance - Freshers & Experienced
 
http://www.allaptitude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm
 
All The Best,
Support Team
 
 
 
 
 


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4a. So there IS life ... !
Posted by: "Phil Tilson" Phil@tptp.co.uk philtilson
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:01 am ((PDT))

Very pleased to see that there are actually people answering technical
questions in this group, but disappointed - as a new member - not to
have had any response at all to what, I assume, is a very simple
question for many members.

So, against my better judgement (as someone who moderates other Yahoo
groups) I am posting the text again, in the hope that someone can please
come back with an answer.

Cheers!

Phil

Hi -

I first started playing with Oopic about eight years ago! Since then,
for various reasons, I have not done anything with them. However, I
now have a project that I think will be ideal. I have several Oopic
chips - Version A.2.0 - and was going to download the development
software from the site, but then I saw that we had version 4, version
5 and version 6!

I have had a good look round the site, but can't see anything that
says what versions of the development software are compatible with
what version of the firmware!

Could somebody help me out, please? Or did I see something about
being able to get upgraded firmware? Surely not for these old 16C74
chips?

Help!


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4b. Re: So there IS life ... !
Posted by: "stantibbs1" stantibbs1@yahoo.com stantibbs1
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:20 am ((PDT))

I started with I.A. Version chip, I used Ver. 5 development
software. I have a bunch of II.B. chips, still use Ver. 5
development software. configuration util drop down select chip Ver.
I have tried Ver. 6 development software, got lazy didn't want to
learn new GUI, "wow i'm lazy"
get 4, 5, 6,and try them all.
Stan


--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Tilson" <Phil@...> wrote:
>
> Very pleased to see that there are actually people answering
technical
> questions in this group, but disappointed - as a new member - not to
> have had any response at all to what, I assume, is a very simple
> question for many members.
>
> So, against my better judgement (as someone who moderates other
Yahoo
> groups) I am posting the text again, in the hope that someone can
please
> come back with an answer.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Phil
>
> Hi -
>
> I first started playing with Oopic about eight years ago! Since
then,
> for various reasons, I have not done anything with them. However, I
> now have a project that I think will be ideal. I have several Oopic
> chips - Version A.2.0 - and was going to download the development
> software from the site, but then I saw that we had version 4,
version
> 5 and version 6!
>
> I have had a good look round the site, but can't see anything that
> says what versions of the development software are compatible with
> what version of the firmware!
>
> Could somebody help me out, please? Or did I see something about
> being able to get upgraded firmware? Surely not for these old 16C74
> chips?
>
> Help!
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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4c. Re: So there IS life ... !
Posted by: "Dave Warner" BIMI_TYEDYE@HOTMAIL.COM bimi_tie_dye
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:46 pm ((PDT))


You'll have to excuse us here on the forum - there's been a recent . . hmm dispute - and I believe the regulars are laying back a bit.
http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008

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4d. Re: So there IS life ... !
Posted by: "red71956" kdwyer@epix.net red71956
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:28 pm ((PDT))

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Tilson" <Phil@...> wrote:
>
> Very pleased to see that there are actually people answering
technical
> questions in this group, but disappointed - as a new member - not to
> have had any response at all to what, I assume, is a very simple
> question for many members.
>
> So, against my better judgement (as someone who moderates other
Yahoo
> groups) I am posting the text again, in the hope that someone can
please
> come back with an answer.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Phil
>
> Hi -
>
> I first started playing with Oopic about eight years ago! Since
then,
> for various reasons, I have not done anything with them. However, I
> now have a project that I think will be ideal. I have several Oopic
> chips - Version A.2.0 - and was going to download the development
> software from the site, but then I saw that we had version 4,
version
> 5 and version 6!

Not completely sure, but V4,5, and 6 you refer to are the IDE
(Integrated Development Environment.) Your chips have an 'A' version
of the firmware.

>
> I have had a good look round the site, but can't see anything that
> says what versions of the development software are compatible with
> what version of the firmware!

Its' ALL compatible!
V6 is apparently pulled from the site. I think that you can use ANY
version of IDE with ANY chip version. HOWEVER you cannot use chip
commands for any chip version LATER than what you have.
You must use only commands available for chip version A. You can use
any version IDE but you must confine yourself to commands used in
your chip version. See the Manual for a list of Objects available for
each chip version.

>
> Could somebody help me out, please? Or did I see something about
> being able to get upgraded firmware? Surely not for these old 16C74
> chips?
>

I heard about sending 'em back and including a few bucks and getting
the new firmware blah blah blah. Search the messages. Never did it
myself, I just learn to call 'bugs' something different,
like 'undocumented features'.

> Help!
>

Surely you jest. There is no help. We are all so very alone...

Your mileage may vary.
>
>
>
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>


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5.1. Re: recovery jumper
Posted by: "stantibbs1" stantibbs1@yahoo.com stantibbs1
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:40 am ((PDT))

Use the parallel program cable.
I believe the the ooPIC Compiler writes directly to the EEPROM
(-), must configure and setup parallel program cable.
please correct me, if I'm wrong.
Stan

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "scottmsavage" <smsavage32@...> wrote:
>
> > At 10:08 PM 8/5/2008, scottmsavage wrote:
> > >The ooPIC has a better solution than a recovery jumper...
>
> > This is the attitude that turns your customers against you.
> > ...Andy
>
> I'm sorry... Saving an I/O line will turn customers against me? I
> would have thought otherwise. And since I/O lines are at a premium
> and the EEPROM was in a socket for memory upgrades...
>
> You know... why don't we let the user community decide.
>
> If anyone is not already bored with this thread, vote for how I
> should have done it:
>
> A. Dedicate an I/O line for cosmic wedgie recovery.
> B. Save an I/O line by utilizing the EEPROM in a socket thing.
>
> Who knows, maybe this information will save a headache or two in
> future versions.
>
> Scott Savage
>


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5.2. Re: recovery jumper
Posted by: "stantibbs1" stantibbs1@yahoo.com stantibbs1
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:24 am ((PDT))

I mention this only from my experience with the "S" board.
Stan

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "stantibbs1" <stantibbs1@...> wrote:
>
> Use the parallel program cable.
> I believe the the ooPIC Compiler writes directly to the EEPROM
> (-), must configure and setup parallel program cable.
> please correct me, if I'm wrong.
> Stan
>
>
>
> --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "scottmsavage" <smsavage32@> wrote:
> >
> > > At 10:08 PM 8/5/2008, scottmsavage wrote:
> > > >The ooPIC has a better solution than a recovery jumper...
> >
> > > This is the attitude that turns your customers against you.
> > > ...Andy
> >
> > I'm sorry... Saving an I/O line will turn customers against me?
I
> > would have thought otherwise. And since I/O lines are at a
premium
> > and the EEPROM was in a socket for memory upgrades...
> >
> > You know... why don't we let the user community decide.
> >
> > If anyone is not already bored with this thread, vote for how I
> > should have done it:
> >
> > A. Dedicate an I/O line for cosmic wedgie recovery.
> > B. Save an I/O line by utilizing the EEPROM in a socket thing.
> >
> > Who knows, maybe this information will save a headache or two in
> > future versions.
> >
> > Scott Savage
> >
>


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6a. Re: Daisy MP3 serial control
Posted by: "design.wonk" design.wonk@yahoo.com design.wonk
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:49 am ((PDT))

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "footballeyes" <mancino@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm new to the group and have started tinkering with serial control on
> the Daisy MP3 board.
>
> I've found a thread on the topic, but it was unresolved. Does anyone
> have any info on how the project turned out?
> (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/message/38056?var=1&l=1)
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex.
>

That was my project. I had some problems with the Daisy (mostly sound
quality) and changed the design of the project. The simple serial
control mode does not work on the Daisy (or on the ooPIC). I was able
to control the Daisy by adding a RS232 port and connecting the Daisy
to the ooPIC using a null modem cable (only 3 wires were requited).
If you wany more information on hw this was done, let me know.

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7. OoPic and Basic Atom
Posted by: "red71956" kdwyer@epix.net red71956
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:11 pm ((PDT))

I have an OoPic C, an R, and a Basic Atom (and Pro!) This wealth of
processing riches has prompted me to examine the relative merits of
each. Each processor does some things remarkably well, and some
things 'just barely'. Wouldn't it be great to have a processor with
NONE of the drawbacks?

My question is if any of you have any experience (good or bad!) trying
to integrate two different microcontrollers. Playing to each unit's
strength, while working around or thru each units' weak points...

Say, use an OoPic for Virtual Circuits for motors and basic object-
avoidance issues, and have the ability to send and/or receive data and
commands, and use a faster Basic Atom Pro for 'higher functions' like
deciding what to do and having a more extensive sensor array. Also with
the ability to exchange info with an OoPic.

The OoPic's main strength might be the use of Virtual Circuits. The
Basic Atom Pro's might be speed and memory size.
The OoPic's main weakness might be serial communications, the Atm Pro's
might be no multitasking.
I suppose hardware serial or I2C is the only workable solution, but
there may be odd or unusual ideas out there... Non-standard ways of
transmitting info can work.
Besides, what info should be exchanged?


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8a. oopic 2 vB1.0?
Posted by: "ckelly.alternate" cybercat2@comcast.net ckelly.alternate
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:03 pm ((PDT))

Help!

I just pulled my oopic 2 vB1.0 out of storage, for the first time in
several years. However, none of my machines have a parallel or serial
port!!

I've been reading, various messages, and it appears the oopic2vb10
doesn't support serial. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Is there ANY way I can connect this to a Vista laptop via USB??

If not, will an oopic3+ plug into my old "s" board (rev S2)? Will the
single eprom still work? Can I program via USB in Vista??

One more dumb question - how come the oopic.com page is only selling
2+ chips, while Savage is selling oopic3+?

In short, if I can't get this old board running, what should I buy
that's similar to the capabilities of my old 2-S?

Thanks,
Chris Kelly

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8b. Re: oopic 2 vB1.0?
Posted by: "ray xu" rayxu@tx.rr.com rayxu3908
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:17 pm ((PDT))

Setup a Virtual PC (search it on google) with XP running on it. Get a USB
to SERIAL port cable and install the drivers on the Virtual PC.

___________________
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rayxu@tx.rr.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ckelly.alternate
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:04 PM
To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oopic] oopic 2 vB1.0?

Help!

I just pulled my oopic 2 vB1.0 out of storage, for the first time in
several years. However, none of my machines have a parallel or serial
port!!

I've been reading, various messages, and it appears the oopic2vb10
doesn't support serial. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Is there ANY way I can connect this to a Vista laptop via USB??

If not, will an oopic3+ plug into my old "s" board (rev S2)? Will the
single eprom still work? Can I program via USB in Vista??

One more dumb question - how come the oopic.com page is only selling
2+ chips, while Savage is selling oopic3+?

In short, if I can't get this old board running, what should I buy
that's similar to the capabilities of my old 2-S?

Thanks,
Chris Kelly

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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8c. Re: oopic 2 vB1.0?
Posted by: "ckelly.alternate" cybercat2@comcast.net ckelly.alternate
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:27 pm ((PDT))

Okay, I can set up the Virtual PC. However, everything I'm reading
indicates that version B1.0 firmware won't do standard serial. Is
this incorrect? If so, how do I adapt the serial to "ttl-progamming
port"?

Thanks
Chris

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "ray xu" <rayxu@...> wrote:
>
> Setup a Virtual PC (search it on google) with XP running on it.
Get a USB
> to SERIAL port cable and install the drivers on the Virtual PC.
>
>
>
> ___________________
> Ray Xu
> rayxu@...
> DPRG <http://www.dprg.org> member
> OOPic <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/> group member
> Seattle <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/>
Robotics
> group member
> My Blog <http://rayxublogs.blogspot.com/>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> ckelly.alternate
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:04 PM
> To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oopic] oopic 2 vB1.0?
>
>
>
> Help!
>
> I just pulled my oopic 2 vB1.0 out of storage, for the first time
in
> several years. However, none of my machines have a parallel or
serial
> port!!
>
> I've been reading, various messages, and it appears the oopic2vb10
> doesn't support serial. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Is there ANY way I can connect this to a Vista laptop via USB??
>
> If not, will an oopic3+ plug into my old "s" board (rev S2)? Will
the
> single eprom still work? Can I program via USB in Vista??
>
> One more dumb question - how come the oopic.com page is only
selling
> 2+ chips, while Savage is selling oopic3+?
>
> In short, if I can't get this old board running, what should I buy
> that's similar to the capabilities of my old 2-S?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>


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9. usb-to-R?
Posted by: "ckelly.alternate" cybercat2@comcast.net ckelly.alternate
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:33 pm ((PDT))

While I'm still looking to get my oopic2b10 working, I'm also
researching options. A couple of questions -

1. The "R" boards support serial, and I find a usb cable for
programming the board. However, the picture of the cable is a "micro-
usb" connector, and I don't find one on the "R" board. Is the picture
wrong?

2. Am I correct in interpreting that none of the ide's run under Vista
right now? Is this going to be corrected soon?

thanks
chris

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