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This Forum is Dedicated For all The Object Oriented PIC Lovers .......... The concept behind OOPic is straight forward. Use preprogrammed multitasking Objects from a library of highly optimized Objects to do all the work of interacting with the hardware. Then write small scripts in Basic, C, or Java syntax styles to control the Objects. During operation, the Objects run continuously and simultaneously in the background while the scripts run in the foreground telling the objects what to do.

Sunday, August 24, 2008

[oopic] Digest Number 3919

There are 10 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. connect oopic to laptop
From: mihirchheda
1b. Re: connect oopic to laptop
From: ray xu

2a. program address
From: mihirchheda
2b. Re: program address
From: ray xu

3a. Re: So there IS life ... !
From: ray xu

4a. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
From: Steve

5a. data from srf05 on oopic to laptop
From: mihirchheda
5b. Re: data from srf05 on oopic to laptop
From: ray xu
5c. Re: data from srf05 on oopic to laptop
From: Bob Hedges

6a. Re: Everyone please read. - Future of the ooPIC.
From: ckelly.alternate

Messages
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1a. connect oopic to laptop
Posted by: "mihirchheda" mihirchheda@yahoo.co.uk mihirchheda
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:49 am ((PDT))

Hi guys
I am just a basic learner of oopic.
i want to know how to connect an oopic to my laptop to see the output
result
for example: i am using srf05 sensor. so when the oopic calculates the
distance i want the answer to be seen on my laptop
i am using vista so i do not have a hyperterminal

please guys can u help me out with this

Many thanks

Messages in this topic (2)
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1b. Re: connect oopic to laptop
Posted by: "ray xu" rayxu@tx.rr.com rayxu3908
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:10 am ((PDT))

Setup a Virtual PC that's running on XP, install the oopic compiler in the
Virtual PC, write the code, connect the oopic to the laptop via serial port,
etc. all the basic stuff. The http://www.oopic.com/ site has all this
information. If you haven't noticed, there was a similar topic on this not
long ago.

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-----Original Message-----
From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mihirchheda
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 11:49 AM
To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oopic] connect oopic to laptop

please guys can u help me out with this

Many thanks

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Messages in this topic (2)
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2a. program address
Posted by: "mihirchheda" mihirchheda@yahoo.co.uk mihirchheda
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:50 am ((PDT))

Hello

I have written a basic program to make a led glow.
i wnat to know what is the address of my program
how do know abt it

please help me

Thank you

Mihir

Messages in this topic (2)
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2b. Re: program address
Posted by: "ray xu" rayxu@tx.rr.com rayxu3908
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:35 pm ((PDT))

You can hook up an LCD to your OOPic and let the LCD display the "Address"
property of what ever object you're using to control your LED. I'm not an
OOpic pro, Im doing the best I can to help. Most of our active and "best"
members (I guess) are "laying back" for a while, after a recent "dispute".

-----Original Message-----
From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mihirchheda
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:51 PM
To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oopic] program address

Hello

I have written a basic program to make a led glow.
i wnat to know what is the address of my program
how do know abt it

please help me

Thank you

Mihir

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Messages in this topic (2)
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3a. Re: So there IS life ... !
Posted by: "ray xu" rayxu@tx.rr.com rayxu3908
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:33 pm ((PDT))

Guys just come on, I don't want to be the only one answering questions.

-----Original Message-----
From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
red71956
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:29 PM
To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oopic] Re: So there IS life ... !

--- In oopic@yahoogroups. <mailto:oopic%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Phil
Tilson" <Phil@...> wrote:
>
> Very pleased to see that there are actually people answering
technical
> questions in this group, but disappointed - as a new member - not to
> have had any response at all to what, I assume, is a very simple
> question for many members.
>
> So, against my better judgement (as someone who moderates other
Yahoo
> groups) I am posting the text again, in the hope that someone can
please
> come back with an answer.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Phil
>
> Hi -
>
> I first started playing with Oopic about eight years ago! Since
then,
> for various reasons, I have not done anything with them. However, I
> now have a project that I think will be ideal. I have several Oopic
> chips - Version A.2.0 - and was going to download the development
> software from the site, but then I saw that we had version 4,
version
> 5 and version 6!

Not completely sure, but V4,5, and 6 you refer to are the IDE
(Integrated Development Environment.) Your chips have an 'A' version
of the firmware.

>
> I have had a good look round the site, but can't see anything that
> says what versions of the development software are compatible with
> what version of the firmware!

Its' ALL compatible!
V6 is apparently pulled from the site. I think that you can use ANY
version of IDE with ANY chip version. HOWEVER you cannot use chip
commands for any chip version LATER than what you have.
You must use only commands available for chip version A. You can use
any version IDE but you must confine yourself to commands used in
your chip version. See the Manual for a list of Objects available for
each chip version.

>
> Could somebody help me out, please? Or did I see something about
> being able to get upgraded firmware? Surely not for these old 16C74
> chips?
>

I heard about sending 'em back and including a few bucks and getting
the new firmware blah blah blah. Search the messages. Never did it
myself, I just learn to call 'bugs' something different,
like 'undocumented features'.

> Help!
>

Surely you jest. There is no help. We are all so very alone...

Your mileage may vary.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Messages in this topic (5)
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________________________________________________________________________
4a. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
Posted by: "Steve" stevefifielduk@yahoo.co.uk stevefifielduk
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:26 pm ((PDT))

Thanks for the reply Ian.

I have ordered a MAX220 based TTL-RS232 convertor & intend to go the
route you suggest... anything else looks full of potential pitfalls.

I went for: http://www.tronisoft.com/4201.php

At least I understand RS-232 & this converter comes with it's own
basic terminal program & loads of documentation including VB6 examples.

So at the moment I am waiting for the Old Laptop with a serial &
parallel port, the TTL-RS232 converter & VB6 (I hadn't used VB for
yonks, when I tried to load my old VB CD it just i/o errored, so have
got myself VB6). Then hopefully the fun can begin.

I couldn't resist buying this for a tenner off Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260262756076

RF 433MHz Transmitter and Receiver Module Pair.
Manufactured by RF Solutions.
Transmitter - AM-RT4-433
* Transmit range up to 100m
* CMOS/TTL input
* No adjustable components
* Very stable operating frequency
* Low current consumption
* Low spurious emissions (-35dBc)
* Wide operating voltage (2-14v)

Receiver - AM-HRR3-433
* Compact hybrid AM Receiver module
* Very high frequency stability (with no adjustable components)
* Receiving range up to 50 metres
* CMOS/TTL compatible output
* Single 5V supply.
* Low current consumption.

So when I have the hard wired serial link worked out, I will play with
this next... I'm thinking wiring the receiver up to the RS232 - TTL
convertor at Laptop end.

Cheers,
Steve.

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, Ian Drennan <ianid@...> wrote:
>
> Steve wrote:
> > I've just found following on the ooPic web site:
> >
> > An I2C Toolkit, with VB6 source code, can be downloaded from the
> > download page. When working with the I2C Tools, the OOPic programming
> > cable is used as an I2C cable, so no additional hardware is required.
> >
> > Sounds good, but the VB6 source code example does not exist.
> >
> > Anyone got any pointers or have the example code they could send me?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <stevefifielduk@> wrote:
> >
> >> I've just received my ooPic III+ starter package so plenty of fun in
> >> store for me!
> >> I've not had a lot to do with PIC / Robotics, etc before... I'm a
> >> mainframe Systems Programmer of 35 years standing (Z/os Assembler,
> >> etc)& just getting into this for a hobby.
> >>
> >> One thing hopefully someone could clear up for me... How do I go
about
> >> & what would I need to interface ooPic with my Laptop?
> >>
> >> I understand how I can attach the parallel cable supplied &
re-program
> >> it, but don't understand how I can exchange data between Laptop &
> >> ooPic while ooPic is running.
> >>
> >> Am I correct in assuming the parallel cable is just used for
> >> downloading new program to chip & so couldn't be used to interface
> >> when running ooPic?
> >>
> >> What happens when the program is downloaded to ooPic.. Does it start
> >> executing straight away, or only when the parallel cable is released?
> >> (I'm waiting for an old Laptop I ordered off eBay to turn up, my one,
> >> like most modern Laptops doesn't have serial or parallel
interfaces (I
> >> tried a USB / Parallel port converter, but it didn't work)... so I
> >> can't try out yet).
> >> The manual I downloaded from ooPic site seems to have a lot of
> >> references to sections that are missing from the manual, as always
> >> they are the ones I need!
> >>
> >> I see ooPic supports I2C interface, but can't see how I would
> >> interface that to my Laptop ...an I2C PC network card if there is
such
> >> a beast?
> >>
> >> If I2C is the way to do it, presumably I would have to have knock up
> >> something to monitor & react on the Laptop... Visual Basic prog?
> >> The sort of thing I have in mind is a voice synthesizer attached to
> >> ooPic & AI running on PC. PC would read state of ooPic attached
> >> sensors & chose appropriate response, send it to ooPic which would
> >> drive the voice chip.
> >>
> >> One route I might consider is Wireless or IR which would be good
for a
> >> mobile project... but the cost seems out of proportion at the
moment.
> >>
> >> Any help appreciated,
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Steve.
> >>
> >>
> Steve
> I don't have the oopic III+ but am using the Oopic II+ . Both these
> chips have SCP (Serial Control Protocol) which is the easiest way to
> interact with the oopic while it is running. I gave up with I2C and the
> parallel cable when the II+ SCP chips became available as I2C was slow
> and cumbersome in my experience.
> Read up in the manual Chapter 16 which explains the serial commands to
> use to talk to the oopic using SCP.
> Take a look in the files section of this group where there are some
> examples using SCP. Also there is a tool called SCP Configurator
which I
> wrote some years back which is a graphic interface which composes the
> desired SCP command strings. It also has a built in terminal to
transmit
> the command string to the oopic.
>
> There are USB to serial converter that do work but I know some do not
> work. Check in the archives as this was discussed often. Serial is the
> way to go.
>
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Ian
>

Messages in this topic (4)
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5a. data from srf05 on oopic to laptop
Posted by: "mihirchheda" mihirchheda@yahoo.co.uk mihirchheda
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 4:36 pm ((PDT))

Hi
I have managed to get hyperterminal in vista
i am testing a srf05 to measure the distance for avoidance
it calculates the distance by time of flight method
i want to get the data continously in my laptop screen
how can i do it.
what commands i need to have
Please can u guide me

Thanks

Mihir

Messages in this topic (3)
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5b. Re: data from srf05 on oopic to laptop
Posted by: "ray xu" rayxu@tx.rr.com rayxu3908
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:13 pm ((PDT))

We are here not here to give flat out answers. We are here to HELP get
those answers. Just asking for flat out answers is usually rude. You
should read up on the basics of programming an OOPic and how to use the
SRF05.

-----Original Message-----
From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mihirchheda
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:37 PM
To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oopic] data from srf05 on oopic to laptop

Thanks

Mihir

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5c. Re: data from srf05 on oopic to laptop
Posted by: "Bob Hedges" bhmtr@mindspring.com bobhedges9
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:47 pm ((PDT))

Read about oSerialport.

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "mihirchheda" <mihirchheda@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> I have managed to get hyperterminal in vista
> i am testing a srf05 to measure the distance for avoidance
> it calculates the distance by time of flight method
> i want to get the data continously in my laptop screen
> how can i do it.
> what commands i need to have
> Please can u guide me
>
> Thanks
>
> Mihir
>

Messages in this topic (3)
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________________________________________________________________________
6a. Re: Everyone please read. - Future of the ooPIC.
Posted by: "ckelly.alternate" cybercat2@comcast.net ckelly.alternate
Date: Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:10 pm ((PDT))

Please excuse me for replying to an old message, but I'm still trying
to figure out my next move...

This week I dragged out my old oopic (2,vb1.0), only to find out it
won't talk to my laptop. With the help of people here, I've been
trying to decide whether to rewire it, upgrade it, or replace it. I'd
just about decided to stick a new one on the credit card. However, it
looks like even the latest versions have usb interface problems, and
the software won't run on vista. Now I find out current units are
going to legacy status, even before they're operational on current
platforms (I've never seen a product go to legacy before the new
product is even designed before). It appears the support structure
for this product has gone to pieces.

I loved my old oopic2. And I'd love to replace it with something
similar. But I've put my credit card back in my wallet until I'm sure
I can buy something that works and will be supported. So my questions
are -

1. Is there a product or package of products that supports usb and
vista? Will it continue to be supported for a few years?
2. If not, is there going to be a product in the near future that
reliably supports usb and vista? If so, is there an expected date?
3. If not, is there a competing product with the same capabilities
that is currently available?

Thanks
Chris
(severely confused)

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "scottmsavage" <smsavage32@...> wrote:
>
>
> First, let me start with simply saying:
>
> I apologize.
>
> After talking directly to several customers is appears evident that
> the announcement concerning the 8-bit products come across in a way
> that it was not meant to.
>
> Let me be specific about this: We have not abandoned the 8-bit
line
> of products nor have we abandoned you the customer. We have only
> officially changed the status of that line to what we are
> calling "legacy" products, or as the ooPIC web site puts
it "Classic
> ooPIC"
>
> What this means is that have shifted our primary focus (but not all
> of it) to our newer better products.
>
> I invite each and every one of you to explore our new products and
> how they address issues that the user community has been asking for.
>
> For instance:
>
> 1. The user now has control over the object set.
> (New hardware? Not a problem... no waiting...)
> (create, maintain and share your own objects.)
> (Bug? Still not a problem. ALL objects are
> (open source and community maintained.)
> 2. More RAM
> (50 times more)
> 3. Your programs will now run 8000 times faster.
> (That is not a misprint)
> 4. USB Port.
> (No serial port? Not a problem.)
> 5. Built in Voice, Sound FX, and Music synth.
> (Need your robot to sound like R2D2?)
>
> The list can go on and on. But suffice to say that the things you
> have been asking for are being put into a product line that can
> handle them.
>
> Scott Savage
>

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Saturday, August 23, 2008

[oopic] Digest Number 3918

There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
From: Steve
1b. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
From: Ian Drennan

2a. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
From: Mike Martin
2b. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
From: richard@trikky2.com
2c. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
From: dettmerg

3. Wipro/Satyam/Oracle/Reliance - Freshers & Experienced
From: Jaya Priya

4a. So there IS life ... !
From: Phil Tilson
4b. Re: So there IS life ... !
From: stantibbs1
4c. Re: So there IS life ... !
From: Dave Warner
4d. Re: So there IS life ... !
From: red71956

5.1. Re: recovery jumper
From: stantibbs1
5.2. Re: recovery jumper
From: stantibbs1

6a. Re: Daisy MP3 serial control
From: design.wonk

7. OoPic and Basic Atom
From: red71956

8a. oopic 2 vB1.0?
From: ckelly.alternate
8b. Re: oopic 2 vB1.0?
From: ray xu
8c. Re: oopic 2 vB1.0?
From: ckelly.alternate

9. usb-to-R?
From: ckelly.alternate

Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
Posted by: "Steve" stevefifielduk@yahoo.co.uk stevefifielduk
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:41 am ((PDT))

I've just found following on the ooPic web site:

An I2C Toolkit, with VB6 source code, can be downloaded from the
download page. When working with the I2C Tools, the OOPic programming
cable is used as an I2C cable, so no additional hardware is required.

Sounds good, but the VB6 source code example does not exist.

Anyone got any pointers or have the example code they could send me?

Thanks,

Steve

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <stevefifielduk@...> wrote:
>
> I've just received my ooPic III+ starter package so plenty of fun in
> store for me!
> I've not had a lot to do with PIC / Robotics, etc before... I'm a
> mainframe Systems Programmer of 35 years standing (Z/os Assembler,
> etc)& just getting into this for a hobby.
>
> One thing hopefully someone could clear up for me... How do I go about
> & what would I need to interface ooPic with my Laptop?
>
> I understand how I can attach the parallel cable supplied & re-program
> it, but don't understand how I can exchange data between Laptop &
> ooPic while ooPic is running.
>
> Am I correct in assuming the parallel cable is just used for
> downloading new program to chip & so couldn't be used to interface
> when running ooPic?
>
> What happens when the program is downloaded to ooPic.. Does it start
> executing straight away, or only when the parallel cable is released?
> (I'm waiting for an old Laptop I ordered off eBay to turn up, my one,
> like most modern Laptops doesn't have serial or parallel interfaces (I
> tried a USB / Parallel port converter, but it didn't work)... so I
> can't try out yet).
> The manual I downloaded from ooPic site seems to have a lot of
> references to sections that are missing from the manual, as always
> they are the ones I need!
>
> I see ooPic supports I2C interface, but can't see how I would
> interface that to my Laptop ...an I2C PC network card if there is such
> a beast?
>
> If I2C is the way to do it, presumably I would have to have knock up
> something to monitor & react on the Laptop... Visual Basic prog?
> The sort of thing I have in mind is a voice synthesizer attached to
> ooPic & AI running on PC. PC would read state of ooPic attached
> sensors & chose appropriate response, send it to ooPic which would
> drive the voice chip.
>
> One route I might consider is Wireless or IR which would be good for a
> mobile project... but the cost seems out of proportion at the moment.
>
> Any help appreciated,
>
> Cheers,
> Steve.
>

Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
Posted by: "Ian Drennan" ianid@sai.co.za iand242002
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:13 am ((PDT))

Steve wrote:
> I've just found following on the ooPic web site:
>
> An I2C Toolkit, with VB6 source code, can be downloaded from the
> download page. When working with the I2C Tools, the OOPic programming
> cable is used as an I2C cable, so no additional hardware is required.
>
> Sounds good, but the VB6 source code example does not exist.
>
> Anyone got any pointers or have the example code they could send me?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
> --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <stevefifielduk@...> wrote:
>
>> I've just received my ooPic III+ starter package so plenty of fun in
>> store for me!
>> I've not had a lot to do with PIC / Robotics, etc before... I'm a
>> mainframe Systems Programmer of 35 years standing (Z/os Assembler,
>> etc)& just getting into this for a hobby.
>>
>> One thing hopefully someone could clear up for me... How do I go about
>> & what would I need to interface ooPic with my Laptop?
>>
>> I understand how I can attach the parallel cable supplied & re-program
>> it, but don't understand how I can exchange data between Laptop &
>> ooPic while ooPic is running.
>>
>> Am I correct in assuming the parallel cable is just used for
>> downloading new program to chip & so couldn't be used to interface
>> when running ooPic?
>>
>> What happens when the program is downloaded to ooPic.. Does it start
>> executing straight away, or only when the parallel cable is released?
>> (I'm waiting for an old Laptop I ordered off eBay to turn up, my one,
>> like most modern Laptops doesn't have serial or parallel interfaces (I
>> tried a USB / Parallel port converter, but it didn't work)... so I
>> can't try out yet).
>> The manual I downloaded from ooPic site seems to have a lot of
>> references to sections that are missing from the manual, as always
>> they are the ones I need!
>>
>> I see ooPic supports I2C interface, but can't see how I would
>> interface that to my Laptop ...an I2C PC network card if there is such
>> a beast?
>>
>> If I2C is the way to do it, presumably I would have to have knock up
>> something to monitor & react on the Laptop... Visual Basic prog?
>> The sort of thing I have in mind is a voice synthesizer attached to
>> ooPic & AI running on PC. PC would read state of ooPic attached
>> sensors & chose appropriate response, send it to ooPic which would
>> drive the voice chip.
>>
>> One route I might consider is Wireless or IR which would be good for a
>> mobile project... but the cost seems out of proportion at the moment.
>>
>> Any help appreciated,
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve.
>>
>>
Steve
I don't have the oopic III+ but am using the Oopic II+ . Both these
chips have SCP (Serial Control Protocol) which is the easiest way to
interact with the oopic while it is running. I gave up with I2C and the
parallel cable when the II+ SCP chips became available as I2C was slow
and cumbersome in my experience.
Read up in the manual Chapter 16 which explains the serial commands to
use to talk to the oopic using SCP.
Take a look in the files section of this group where there are some
examples using SCP. Also there is a tool called SCP Configurator which I
wrote some years back which is a graphic interface which composes the
desired SCP command strings. It also has a built in terminal to transmit
the command string to the oopic.

There are USB to serial converter that do work but I know some do not
work. Check in the archives as this was discussed often. Serial is the
way to go.

Hope this helps

Ian

Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
2a. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
Posted by: "Mike Martin" xaviour2me@yahoo.com.au xaviour2me
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:49 am ((PDT))

No, some of us are still here lurking I suspect - but we're too
inexperienced to put our hand up. Could we share the work load on a
rotational basis?

Mike M.

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "ray xu" <rayxu@...> wrote:
>
> Wow this group is in ruins after the big argument. What ever
happened to
> Richard? Did the active people here all abandoned this group?
>
>
>
> ___________________
> Ray Xu
> rayxu@...
> DPRG <http://www.dprg.org> member
> OOPic <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/> group member
> Seattle <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/>
Robotics
> group member
> My Blog <http://rayxublogs.blogspot.com/>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Stan
> Brewer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:01 PM
> To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oopic] New Owner/Moderator needed
>
>
>
> Maybe someone will volunteer to become the new owner/moderator of
this
> group.
>
> Stan
>
> Jaya Priya wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Dear Members,
> >
> > Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)
> >
> > Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
> >
> > http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm
> > <http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> >
> > All The Best,
> > Support Team
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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2b. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
Posted by: "richard@trikky2.com" richard@trikky2.com richard6406
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:50 am ((PDT))

Hi Folks ( from the other Richard ),

Still here and lurking ... Not really done that much to
my project recently due to work ... But hopefully will
be back at it soon.

All the best.

Richard S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Martin" <xaviour2me@yahoo.com.au>
To: <oopic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:49 AM
Subject: [oopic] Re: New Owner/Moderator needed

> No, some of us are still here lurking I suspect - but we're too
> inexperienced to put our hand up. Could we share the work load on a
> rotational basis?
>
> Mike M.
>
> --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "ray xu" <rayxu@...> wrote:
>>
>> Wow this group is in ruins after the big argument. What ever
> happened to
>> Richard? Did the active people here all abandoned this group?
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________
>> Ray Xu
>> rayxu@...
>> DPRG <http://www.dprg.org> member
>> OOPic <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/> group member
>> Seattle <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/>
> Robotics
>> group member
>> My Blog <http://rayxublogs.blogspot.com/>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Stan
>> Brewer
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:01 PM
>> To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [oopic] New Owner/Moderator needed
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe someone will volunteer to become the new owner/moderator of
> this
>> group.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> Jaya Priya wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Members,
>> >
>> > Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)
>> >
>> > Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
>> >
>> > http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
> paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
>> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm
>> > <http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
> paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
>> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
>> >
>> > All The Best,
>> > Support Team
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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2c. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
Posted by: "dettmerg" dettmerg@yahoo.com dettmerg
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:43 am ((PDT))

Richard,

The list group administrator does not have to be an expert with the
OOPic. He just ensures that the members behave and deletes any rogue
members, especially those who spam the group.

Dennis is an OOPic expert. He's written a couple books on them. Savage
Innovations (Scott) paid him to be the technical support guy since SI
does not have any official support. Dennis was able to get assigned as
the group administrator in conjunction with the paid job because we
needed one at the time.

The group administrator and the OOPic technical support are two
separate functions. One, technical support, is paid by Savage. So, if
anyone is comfortable administrating/moderating the list group, it's
open (not paid).

As far as an official OOPic Technical Support person goes, Scott
Savage has to deal with that. This group OTH provides self taught
insights on its own.

I administer/own several Yahoo list groups, but I am too overloaded to
take on another one.

TTFN,

-Gary

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, <richard@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks ( from the other Richard ),
>
> Still here and lurking ... Not really done that much to
> my project recently due to work ... But hopefully will
> be back at it soon.
>
> All the best.
>
> Richard S.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Martin" <xaviour2me@...>
> To: <oopic@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:49 AM
> Subject: [oopic] Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
>
>
> > No, some of us are still here lurking I suspect - but we're too
> > inexperienced to put our hand up. Could we share the work load on a
> > rotational basis?
> >
> > Mike M.
> >
> > --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "ray xu" <rayxu@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow this group is in ruins after the big argument. What ever
> > happened to
> >> Richard? Did the active people here all abandoned this group?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ___________________
> >> Ray Xu
> >> rayxu@
> >> DPRG <http://www.dprg.org> member
> >> OOPic <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/> group member
> >> Seattle <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/>
> > Robotics
> >> group member
> >> My Blog <http://rayxublogs.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Stan
> >> Brewer
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:01 PM
> >> To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: [oopic] New Owner/Moderator needed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe someone will volunteer to become the new owner/moderator of
> > this
> >> group.
> >>
> >> Stan
> >>
> >> Jaya Priya wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dear Members,
> >> >
> >> > Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)
> >> >
> >> > Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
> >> >
> >> > http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
> > paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> >> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm
> >> > <http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-
> > paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> >> ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
> >> >
> >> > All The Best,
> >> > Support Team
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

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3. Wipro/Satyam/Oracle/Reliance - Freshers & Experienced
Posted by: "Jaya Priya" jaya_priya456@yahoo.com jaya_priya456
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:42 am ((PDT))

Dear Members,

Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)

Wipro/Satyam/Oracle/Reliance - Freshers & Experienced

http://www.allaptitude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm

All The Best,
Support Team

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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4a. So there IS life ... !
Posted by: "Phil Tilson" Phil@tptp.co.uk philtilson
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:01 am ((PDT))

Very pleased to see that there are actually people answering technical
questions in this group, but disappointed - as a new member - not to
have had any response at all to what, I assume, is a very simple
question for many members.

So, against my better judgement (as someone who moderates other Yahoo
groups) I am posting the text again, in the hope that someone can please
come back with an answer.

Cheers!

Phil

Hi -

I first started playing with Oopic about eight years ago! Since then,
for various reasons, I have not done anything with them. However, I
now have a project that I think will be ideal. I have several Oopic
chips - Version A.2.0 - and was going to download the development
software from the site, but then I saw that we had version 4, version
5 and version 6!

I have had a good look round the site, but can't see anything that
says what versions of the development software are compatible with
what version of the firmware!

Could somebody help me out, please? Or did I see something about
being able to get upgraded firmware? Surely not for these old 16C74
chips?

Help!

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4b. Re: So there IS life ... !
Posted by: "stantibbs1" stantibbs1@yahoo.com stantibbs1
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:20 am ((PDT))

I started with I.A. Version chip, I used Ver. 5 development
software. I have a bunch of II.B. chips, still use Ver. 5
development software. configuration util drop down select chip Ver.
I have tried Ver. 6 development software, got lazy didn't want to
learn new GUI, "wow i'm lazy"
get 4, 5, 6,and try them all.
Stan

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Tilson" <Phil@...> wrote:
>
> Very pleased to see that there are actually people answering
technical
> questions in this group, but disappointed - as a new member - not to
> have had any response at all to what, I assume, is a very simple
> question for many members.
>
> So, against my better judgement (as someone who moderates other
Yahoo
> groups) I am posting the text again, in the hope that someone can
please
> come back with an answer.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Phil
>
> Hi -
>
> I first started playing with Oopic about eight years ago! Since
then,
> for various reasons, I have not done anything with them. However, I
> now have a project that I think will be ideal. I have several Oopic
> chips - Version A.2.0 - and was going to download the development
> software from the site, but then I saw that we had version 4,
version
> 5 and version 6!
>
> I have had a good look round the site, but can't see anything that
> says what versions of the development software are compatible with
> what version of the firmware!
>
> Could somebody help me out, please? Or did I see something about
> being able to get upgraded firmware? Surely not for these old 16C74
> chips?
>
> Help!
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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4c. Re: So there IS life ... !
Posted by: "Dave Warner" BIMI_TYEDYE@HOTMAIL.COM bimi_tie_dye
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:46 pm ((PDT))

You'll have to excuse us here on the forum - there's been a recent . . hmm dispute - and I believe the regulars are laying back a bit.
http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008

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4d. Re: So there IS life ... !
Posted by: "red71956" kdwyer@epix.net red71956
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:28 pm ((PDT))

Not completely sure, but V4,5, and 6 you refer to are the IDE
(Integrated Development Environment.) Your chips have an 'A' version
of the firmware.

>
> I have had a good look round the site, but can't see anything that
> says what versions of the development software are compatible with
> what version of the firmware!

>
> Could somebody help me out, please? Or did I see something about
> being able to get upgraded firmware? Surely not for these old 16C74
> chips?
>

Your mileage may vary.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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5.1. Re: recovery jumper
Posted by: "stantibbs1" stantibbs1@yahoo.com stantibbs1
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:40 am ((PDT))

Use the parallel program cable.
I believe the the ooPIC Compiler writes directly to the EEPROM
(-), must configure and setup parallel program cable.
please correct me, if I'm wrong.
Stan

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "scottmsavage" <smsavage32@...> wrote:
>
> > At 10:08 PM 8/5/2008, scottmsavage wrote:
> > >The ooPIC has a better solution than a recovery jumper...
>
> > This is the attitude that turns your customers against you.
> > ...Andy
>
> I'm sorry... Saving an I/O line will turn customers against me? I
> would have thought otherwise. And since I/O lines are at a premium
> and the EEPROM was in a socket for memory upgrades...
>
> You know... why don't we let the user community decide.
>
> If anyone is not already bored with this thread, vote for how I
> should have done it:
>
> A. Dedicate an I/O line for cosmic wedgie recovery.
> B. Save an I/O line by utilizing the EEPROM in a socket thing.
>
> Who knows, maybe this information will save a headache or two in
> future versions.
>
> Scott Savage
>

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5.2. Re: recovery jumper
Posted by: "stantibbs1" stantibbs1@yahoo.com stantibbs1
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:24 am ((PDT))

I mention this only from my experience with the "S" board.
Stan

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "stantibbs1" <stantibbs1@...> wrote:
>
> Use the parallel program cable.
> I believe the the ooPIC Compiler writes directly to the EEPROM
> (-), must configure and setup parallel program cable.
> please correct me, if I'm wrong.
> Stan
>
>
>
> --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "scottmsavage" <smsavage32@> wrote:
> >
> > > At 10:08 PM 8/5/2008, scottmsavage wrote:
> > > >The ooPIC has a better solution than a recovery jumper...
> >
> > > This is the attitude that turns your customers against you.
> > > ...Andy
> >
> > I'm sorry... Saving an I/O line will turn customers against me?
I
> > would have thought otherwise. And since I/O lines are at a
premium
> > and the EEPROM was in a socket for memory upgrades...
> >
> > You know... why don't we let the user community decide.
> >
> > If anyone is not already bored with this thread, vote for how I
> > should have done it:
> >
> > A. Dedicate an I/O line for cosmic wedgie recovery.
> > B. Save an I/O line by utilizing the EEPROM in a socket thing.
> >
> > Who knows, maybe this information will save a headache or two in
> > future versions.
> >
> > Scott Savage
> >
>

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6a. Re: Daisy MP3 serial control
Posted by: "design.wonk" design.wonk@yahoo.com design.wonk
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:49 am ((PDT))

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "footballeyes" <mancino@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm new to the group and have started tinkering with serial control on
> the Daisy MP3 board.
>
> I've found a thread on the topic, but it was unresolved. Does anyone
> have any info on how the project turned out?
> (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/message/38056?var=1&l=1)
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex.
>

That was my project. I had some problems with the Daisy (mostly sound
quality) and changed the design of the project. The simple serial
control mode does not work on the Daisy (or on the ooPIC). I was able
to control the Daisy by adding a RS232 port and connecting the Daisy
to the ooPIC using a null modem cable (only 3 wires were requited).
If you wany more information on hw this was done, let me know.

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7. OoPic and Basic Atom
Posted by: "red71956" kdwyer@epix.net red71956
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:11 pm ((PDT))

I have an OoPic C, an R, and a Basic Atom (and Pro!) This wealth of
processing riches has prompted me to examine the relative merits of
each. Each processor does some things remarkably well, and some
things 'just barely'. Wouldn't it be great to have a processor with
NONE of the drawbacks?

My question is if any of you have any experience (good or bad!) trying
to integrate two different microcontrollers. Playing to each unit's
strength, while working around or thru each units' weak points...

Say, use an OoPic for Virtual Circuits for motors and basic object-
avoidance issues, and have the ability to send and/or receive data and
commands, and use a faster Basic Atom Pro for 'higher functions' like
deciding what to do and having a more extensive sensor array. Also with
the ability to exchange info with an OoPic.

The OoPic's main strength might be the use of Virtual Circuits. The
Basic Atom Pro's might be speed and memory size.
The OoPic's main weakness might be serial communications, the Atm Pro's
might be no multitasking.
I suppose hardware serial or I2C is the only workable solution, but
there may be odd or unusual ideas out there... Non-standard ways of
transmitting info can work.
Besides, what info should be exchanged?

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8a. oopic 2 vB1.0?
Posted by: "ckelly.alternate" cybercat2@comcast.net ckelly.alternate
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:03 pm ((PDT))

Help!

I just pulled my oopic 2 vB1.0 out of storage, for the first time in
several years. However, none of my machines have a parallel or serial
port!!

I've been reading, various messages, and it appears the oopic2vb10
doesn't support serial. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Is there ANY way I can connect this to a Vista laptop via USB??

If not, will an oopic3+ plug into my old "s" board (rev S2)? Will the
single eprom still work? Can I program via USB in Vista??

One more dumb question - how come the oopic.com page is only selling
2+ chips, while Savage is selling oopic3+?

In short, if I can't get this old board running, what should I buy
that's similar to the capabilities of my old 2-S?

Thanks,
Chris Kelly

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8b. Re: oopic 2 vB1.0?
Posted by: "ray xu" rayxu@tx.rr.com rayxu3908
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:17 pm ((PDT))

Setup a Virtual PC (search it on google) with XP running on it. Get a USB
to SERIAL port cable and install the drivers on the Virtual PC.

-----Original Message-----
From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ckelly.alternate
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:04 PM
To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oopic] oopic 2 vB1.0?

Help!

I just pulled my oopic 2 vB1.0 out of storage, for the first time in
several years. However, none of my machines have a parallel or serial
port!!

I've been reading, various messages, and it appears the oopic2vb10
doesn't support serial. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Is there ANY way I can connect this to a Vista laptop via USB??

If not, will an oopic3+ plug into my old "s" board (rev S2)? Will the
single eprom still work? Can I program via USB in Vista??

One more dumb question - how come the oopic.com page is only selling
2+ chips, while Savage is selling oopic3+?

In short, if I can't get this old board running, what should I buy
that's similar to the capabilities of my old 2-S?

Thanks,
Chris Kelly

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8c. Re: oopic 2 vB1.0?
Posted by: "ckelly.alternate" cybercat2@comcast.net ckelly.alternate
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:27 pm ((PDT))

Okay, I can set up the Virtual PC. However, everything I'm reading
indicates that version B1.0 firmware won't do standard serial. Is
this incorrect? If so, how do I adapt the serial to "ttl-progamming
port"?

Thanks
Chris

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "ray xu" <rayxu@...> wrote:
>
> Setup a Virtual PC (search it on google) with XP running on it.
Get a USB
> to SERIAL port cable and install the drivers on the Virtual PC.
>
>
>
> ___________________
> Ray Xu
> rayxu@...
> DPRG <http://www.dprg.org> member
> OOPic <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/> group member
> Seattle <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/>
Robotics
> group member
> My Blog <http://rayxublogs.blogspot.com/>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> ckelly.alternate
> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:04 PM
> To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oopic] oopic 2 vB1.0?
>
>
>
> Help!
>
> I just pulled my oopic 2 vB1.0 out of storage, for the first time
in
> several years. However, none of my machines have a parallel or
serial
> port!!
>
> I've been reading, various messages, and it appears the oopic2vb10
> doesn't support serial. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Is there ANY way I can connect this to a Vista laptop via USB??
>
> If not, will an oopic3+ plug into my old "s" board (rev S2)? Will
the
> single eprom still work? Can I program via USB in Vista??
>
> One more dumb question - how come the oopic.com page is only
selling
> 2+ chips, while Savage is selling oopic3+?
>
> In short, if I can't get this old board running, what should I buy
> that's similar to the capabilities of my old 2-S?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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9. usb-to-R?
Posted by: "ckelly.alternate" cybercat2@comcast.net ckelly.alternate
Date: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:33 pm ((PDT))

While I'm still looking to get my oopic2b10 working, I'm also
researching options. A couple of questions -

1. The "R" boards support serial, and I find a usb cable for
programming the board. However, the picture of the cable is a "micro-
usb" connector, and I don't find one on the "R" board. Is the picture
wrong?

2. Am I correct in interpreting that none of the ide's run under Vista
right now? Is this going to be corrected soon?

thanks
chris

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[oopic] Digest Number 3917

There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Freebies 21st August
From: sarahfrankston

2. Daisy MP3 serial control
From: footballeyes

3. Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
From: Steve

Messages
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1. Freebies 21st August
Posted by: "sarahfrankston" sarahfrankston@yahoo.com sarahfrankston
Date: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:24 am ((PDT))

This is a link to a NEW FREEBIE PAGE for this week so I thought I would,
share it with the group...enjoy!

The link goes to the latest freebie page where you can collect TONS of
items for FREE!
There is so much on offer that its definately worth the visit.They post new
freebies on their 'home page', twice a week, so check out the link below
every Monday and Thursday for the latest free-stuff!

http://www.freebietelegraph.com/

When you have had your freebies, be nice to your family and friends and
pass on the link above, like I did!

Take care and have a great week!

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2. Daisy MP3 serial control
Posted by: "footballeyes" mancino@ca.inter.net footballeyes
Date: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:25 am ((PDT))

Hi everyone,

I'm new to the group and have started tinkering with serial control on
the Daisy MP3 board.

I've found a thread on the topic, but it was unresolved. Does anyone
have any info on how the project turned out?
(http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/message/38056?var=1&l=1)

Best Regards,
Alex.

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3. Hi Complete newbie needs help plus (probably) stupid questions!
Posted by: "Steve" stevefifielduk@yahoo.co.uk stevefifielduk
Date: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:15 pm ((PDT))

I've just received my ooPic III+ starter package so plenty of fun in
store for me!
I've not had a lot to do with PIC / Robotics, etc before... I'm a
mainframe Systems Programmer of 35 years standing (Z/os Assembler,
etc)& just getting into this for a hobby.

One thing hopefully someone could clear up for me... How do I go about
& what would I need to interface ooPic with my Laptop?

I understand how I can attach the parallel cable supplied & re-program
it, but don't understand how I can exchange data between Laptop &
ooPic while ooPic is running.

Am I correct in assuming the parallel cable is just used for
downloading new program to chip & so couldn't be used to interface
when running ooPic?

What happens when the program is downloaded to ooPic.. Does it start
executing straight away, or only when the parallel cable is released?
(I'm waiting for an old Laptop I ordered off eBay to turn up, my one,
like most modern Laptops doesn't have serial or parallel interfaces (I
tried a USB / Parallel port converter, but it didn't work)... so I
can't try out yet).
The manual I downloaded from ooPic site seems to have a lot of
references to sections that are missing from the manual, as always
they are the ones I need!

I see ooPic supports I2C interface, but can't see how I would
interface that to my Laptop ...an I2C PC network card if there is such
a beast?

If I2C is the way to do it, presumably I would have to have knock up
something to monitor & react on the Laptop... Visual Basic prog?
The sort of thing I have in mind is a voice synthesizer attached to
ooPic & AI running on PC. PC would read state of ooPic attached
sensors & chose appropriate response, send it to ooPic which would
drive the voice chip.

One route I might consider is Wireless or IR which would be good for a
mobile project... but the cost seems out of proportion at the moment.

Any help appreciated,

Cheers,
Steve.

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Thursday, August 21, 2008

[oopic] Digest Number 3916

There are 4 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
From: Jaya Priya
1b. Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
From: Jaya Priya
1c. New Owner/Moderator needed
From: Stan Brewer
1d. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
From: ray xu

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1a. Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
Posted by: "Jaya Priya" jaya_priya456@yahoo.com jaya_priya456
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:36 am ((PDT))

Dear Members,

Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)

Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced

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All The Best,
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1b. Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
Posted by: "Jaya Priya" jaya_priya456@yahoo.com jaya_priya456
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:44 am ((PDT))

Dear Members,

Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)

Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced

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All The Best,
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1c. New Owner/Moderator needed
Posted by: "Stan Brewer" brewers@ftc-i.net brewers_2150
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:56 am ((PDT))

Maybe someone will volunteer to become the new owner/moderator of this
group.

Stan

Jaya Priya wrote:

>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)
>
> Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
>
> http://www.allaptitude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm
> <http://www.allaptitude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
>
> All The Best,
> Support Team
>
>
>
>
>
>
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1d. Re: New Owner/Moderator needed
Posted by: "ray xu" rayxu@tx.rr.com rayxu3908
Date: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:18 pm ((PDT))

Wow this group is in ruins after the big argument. What ever happened to
Richard? Did the active people here all abandoned this group?

-----Original Message-----
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Brewer
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:01 PM
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Subject: [oopic] New Owner/Moderator needed

Maybe someone will volunteer to become the new owner/moderator of this
group.

Stan

Jaya Priya wrote:

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>
> Dear Members,
>
> Latest Jobs - Placement Papers - Profiles - Interview (Q & A)
>
> Satyam/Reliance/Oracle/Wipro - Freshers & Experienced
>
> http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm
> <http://www.allaptit <http://www.allaptitude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
ude-paper.com/other/alljobs.htm>
>
> All The Best,
> Support Team
>
>
>
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>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Wednesday, August 20, 2008

[oopic] Digest Number 3915

There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Spam on the OOPIC Forum
From: klingonhero
1b. Re: Spam on the OOPIC Forum
From: dettmerg
1c. Re: Spam on the OOPIC Forum
From: Stan Brewer

2. Version Compatibility
From: Phil Tilson

3a. Power Supply
From: shubo zhang
3b. Re: Power Supply
From: Dave Warner

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1a. Spam on the OOPIC Forum
Posted by: "klingonhero" klingonhero@yahoo.com klingonhero
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:23 am ((PDT))

Is anyone moderating the forum anymore?

Thanks,

Mike

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1b. Re: Spam on the OOPIC Forum
Posted by: "dettmerg" dettmerg@yahoo.com dettmerg
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:41 am ((PDT))

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "klingonhero" <klingonhero@...> wrote:
>
> Is anyone moderating the forum anymore?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>

No. The original group owner is no longer around, and Dennis Clark who
was made an administrator dropped off the list when Savage Innovations
fired him as their technical support guy.

He might still be lurking (which I hope he is), but he isn't
contributing as an OOPic user nor is he monitoring our group for rogue
spammers.

-Gary

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1c. Re: Spam on the OOPIC Forum
Posted by: "Stan Brewer" brewers@ftc-i.net brewers_2150
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:22 pm ((PDT))

Seems like someone told me that if a Group's owner has left the group,
for a certain period of time, and the members of the group vote for a
new owner, Yahoo will make that person the new owner. I would
volunteer, but I already own/moderate all the groups I can handle.

Stan

dettmerg wrote:

> --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com <mailto:oopic%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "klingonhero" <klingonhero@...> wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone moderating the forum anymore?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
> No. The original group owner is no longer around, and Dennis Clark who
> was made an administrator dropped off the list when Savage Innovations
> fired him as their technical support guy.
>
> He might still be lurking (which I hope he is), but he isn't
> contributing as an OOPic user nor is he monitoring our group for rogue
> spammers.
>
> -Gary
>
>

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2. Version Compatibility
Posted by: "Phil Tilson" Phil@tptp.co.uk philtilson
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:10 pm ((PDT))

Hi -

I have had a good look round the site, but can't see anything that
says what versions of the development software are compatible with
what version of the firmware!

Could somebody help me out, please? Or did I see something about
being able to get upgraded firmware? Surely not for these old 16C74
chips?

Help!

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3a. Power Supply
Posted by: "shubo zhang" shubozhang@yahoo.com shubozhang
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:33 pm ((PDT))

Hi,

I use ooPIC-R to control 8 servos simultaneously. When the code is running, the power LED is blinking and all the servos are shaking. After several seconds, power LED becomes stable and the code is executed well. I am not sure if there is a problem in power supply. I use a 9v/800ma adaptor. Do I need to choose a stronger power supply ? One more question. Is it feasible if I utilize one ooPIC-R to control 16 servos simultaneously ?

Thank you very much ! Have a good night !

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3b. Re: Power Supply
Posted by: "Dave Warner" BIMI_TYEDYE@HOTMAIL.COM bimi_tie_dye
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:42 pm ((PDT))

Servos really suck down the current! Never use the oopic power supply to power servos! Use a separate supply and one that can supply some healthy current! Just be sure to connect the grounds of the supplies together.

http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/

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Tuesday, August 19, 2008

[oopic] Digest Number 3914

There is 1 message in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Freebies 18th August
From: christiedurning

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1. Freebies 18th August
Posted by: "christiedurning" christiedurning@yahoo.com christiedurning
Date: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:57 am ((PDT))

This is a link to a NEW FREEBIE PAGE for this week so I thought I would,
share it with the group...enjoy!

The link goes to the latest freebie page where you can collect TONS of
items for FREE! There is so much on offer that its definately worth the visit.

http://www.freebietelegraph.com/?page=13

When you have had your freebies, be nice to your family and friends and
pass on the link above, like I did!

Take care and have a great week!

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Monday, August 18, 2008

[oopic] Digest Number 3913

There is 1 message in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Muliady Ang has invited you to join Friendster
From: Muliady Ang

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1. Muliady Ang has invited you to join Friendster
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Saturday, August 16, 2008

[oopic] Digest Number 3912

There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Serial Control Protocol
From: Andrew Porrett
1b. Re: Serial Control Protocol
From: Andrew Porrett

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1a. Re: Serial Control Protocol
Posted by: "Andrew Porrett" slicerwizard@gmail.com slicerwizard
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:22 am ((PDT))

You don't need to use SCP to stop the program; just remove the power.

SCP is explained in the manual; there is a section on SCP.

At 04:34 PM 8/14/2008, shubo zhang wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I do not know how to set up parameters to use serialcontrol protocol
>to control ooPIC. Can you elaborate it step by step? I am a
>rookie. If I want to stop the program, I just shut down power. So I
>think I really need to use SPC to control ooPIC.
>
>Thank you very much ! Have a nice day !

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1b. Re: Serial Control Protocol
Posted by: "Andrew Porrett" slicerwizard@gmail.com slicerwizard
Date: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:22 am ((PDT))

The main limitation with serial comms is the serial object's 4 byte
RX buffer, but the commands that you would be sending from the master
to the slave would generate short enough responses, so this shouldn't
be a problem. In fact, you could your control commands blind; you
don't really need to see the response when you tell the slave to move
leg x to position y.

At 12:08 PM 8/14/2008, Dave wrote:
>I'm sorry Andy, I didn't seem to finish my question. I was asking about
>OOPIC to OOPIC communication. I want to use one OOPIC to control the
>various gaits for a hexapod robot and another one to control
>the 'slave' leg controler. So what are my limitations for control in a
>situtation like that?
>
>Dave W.

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Friday, August 15, 2008

[oopic] Digest Number 3911

There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Freebies 14th August
From: newsfromjennifer

2a. domain has temporarily been disabled
From: stantibbs1
2b. Re: domain has temporarily been disabled
From: Mike Martin
2c. Re: domain has temporarily been disabled
From: stantibbs1

3a. Re: Serial Control Protocol
From: Dave
3b. Re: Serial Control Protocol
From: shubo zhang

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1. Freebies 14th August
Posted by: "newsfromjennifer" newsfromjennifer@yahoo.com newsfromjennifer
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:52 am ((PDT))

I was sent another excellent link by my friend. This is a link to a
NEW FREEBIE PAGE for this week so I thought I would, share it with
the group...enjoy!

The link goes to the latest freebie page where you can collect TONS of
items for FREE! There is so much on offer that its definately worth
the visit.
Keep your eyes open for new freebie pages, they post them each week!

http://www.freebietelegraph.com/?page=12

When you have had your freebies, be nice to your family and friends
and pass on the link above, like I did!

Take care and have a great week!

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2a. domain has temporarily been disabled
Posted by: "stantibbs1" stantibbs1@yahoo.com stantibbs1
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:47 am ((PDT))

I'm at work and tried to goto http://www.oopic.com/ site

"oopic home page"

Is the site down or are my IT guys blocking me from the site?

When I goto http://www.oopic.com/
I get the following message on a white page.

This domain has temporarily been disabled.
To restore the domain, contact your Customer Support.

Thanks for your help
Stan

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2b. Re: domain has temporarily been disabled
Posted by: "Mike Martin" xaviour2me@yahoo.com.au xaviour2me
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:21 am ((PDT))

Yep, same here. It's probably being re-built. Didn't Scott or Ted say
the website was being revamped?

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "stantibbs1" <stantibbs1@...> wrote:
>
> I'm at work and tried to goto http://www.oopic.com/ site
>
> "oopic home page"
>
> Is the site down or are my IT guys blocking me from the site?
>
> When I goto http://www.oopic.com/
> I get the following message on a white page.
>
> This domain has temporarily been disabled.
> To restore the domain, contact your Customer Support.
>
> Thanks for your help
> Stan
>

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2c. Re: domain has temporarily been disabled
Posted by: "stantibbs1" stantibbs1@yahoo.com stantibbs1
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:14 am ((PDT))

I hadn't heard about a revamping, but I've been away for a while.
Thanks for verifying this for me.

Stan

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Martin" <xaviour2me@...> wrote:
>
> Yep, same here. It's probably being re-built. Didn't Scott or Ted
say
> the website was being revamped?
>
> --- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "stantibbs1" <stantibbs1@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm at work and tried to goto http://www.oopic.com/ site
> >
> > "oopic home page"
> >
> > Is the site down or are my IT guys blocking me from the site?
> >
> > When I goto http://www.oopic.com/
> > I get the following message on a white page.
> >
> > This domain has temporarily been disabled.
> > To restore the domain, contact your Customer Support.
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> > Stan
> >
>

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3a. Re: Serial Control Protocol
Posted by: "Dave" bimityedye@yahoo.com bimityedye
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:08 am ((PDT))

I'm sorry Andy, I didn't seem to finish my question. I was asking about
OOPIC to OOPIC communication. I want to use one OOPIC to control the
various gaits for a hexapod robot and another one to control
the 'slave' leg controler. So what are my limitations for control in a
situtation like that?

Dave W.

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Porrett <slicerwizard@...> wrote:
>
> At 05:31 PM 8/13/2008, Dave Warner wrote:
>
> >To what depth can we control the OOPIC? Please elaborate.
>
> You can stop/start/reset your script code or completely reprogram
> it. You can query or change the values of variables or objects. You
> can load/retrieve data tables to/from the EEPROM. Or you can do the
> usual stuff, which is to just have your OOPic code accept simple
> commands from your PC. What you do depends on what you want/need to
do.
>
>
> ...Andy
>

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3b. Re: Serial Control Protocol
Posted by: "shubo zhang" shubozhang@yahoo.com shubozhang
Date: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:34 pm ((PDT))

Hello,

I do not know how to set up parameters to use serialcontrol protocol to control ooPIC. Can you elaborate it step by step? I am a rookie. If I want to stop the program, I just shut down power. So I think I really need to use SPC to control ooPIC.

Thank you very much ! Have a nice day !

--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Andrew Porrett <slicerwizard@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Andrew Porrett <slicerwizard@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [oopic] Serial Control Protocol
To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 2:30 AM

At 05:31 PM 8/13/2008, Dave Warner wrote:

>To what depth can we control the OOPIC? Please elaborate.

You can stop/start/reset your script code or completely reprogram
it. You can query or change the values of variables or objects. You
can load/retrieve data tables to/from the EEPROM. Or you can do the
usual stuff, which is to just have your OOPic code accept simple
commands from your PC. What you do depends on what you want/need to do.

....Andy

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