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Friday, August 1, 2008

RE: [oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and etc.. UPDATE

One more thing, (sorry for this extra) company's main priority is to satisfy
the customers, but by doing something like dropping all support on a bunch
of popular products (theo) makes customers angry, and wont buy from it.
Thanks a lot my major school project is going to be late if it does go
unsupported anytime in the near future.

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:55 PM
To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and etc..
UPDATE

Also, I like that you're coming out with a new product, but I don't like
that you are dropping ALL support on Legacy products. When it does go
unsupported, I have wasted well over $100 on OOPics that cannot be used
anymore while in good shape. That's just STUPID. I may just go with the
PIC or the AVR. Yes I would agree that there's no other better way to piss
a customer off than by dropping all support suddenly.

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[mailto:oopic@yahoogroups. <mailto:oopic%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:15 PM
To: oopic@yahoogroups. <mailto:oopic%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and etc..
UPDATE

I have been in a whole bunch of businesses for a number of years but I don't

think I have ever heard a more outrageous, self centered, simplistic
business statement in my life. You wrote it as if you expect people to
accept and
just go on using and trusting your product and company.
I usually take people for their word until they prove they can't be
trusted. I know when I have been swindled. You got me for the original
hundred
bucks but if you think you are going to get me for another you are crazy. I
don't care how 'powerful, innovative and wonderful your new product is I am
not plunking down one red cent for it.
Word of mouth is the best advertisement you can get and as far as I am
concerned you are going to get from me exactly what you deserve.

**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget?
Read reviews on AOL Autos.
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<http://autos.
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> aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000
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RE: [oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and etc.. UPDATE

Also, I like that you're coming out with a new product, but I don't like
that you are dropping ALL support on Legacy products. When it does go
unsupported, I have wasted well over $100 on OOPics that cannot be used
anymore while in good shape. That's just STUPID. I may just go with the
PIC or the AVR. Yes I would agree that there's no other better way to piss
a customer off than by dropping all support suddenly.

___________________
Ray Xu
rayxu@tx.rr.com
DPRG <http://www.dprg.org> member
OOPic <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/oopic/> group member
Seattle <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SeattleRobotics/> Robotics
group member
My Blog <http://rayxublogs.blogspot.com/>

-----Original Message-----
From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dldlhfd@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 6:15 PM
To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and etc..
UPDATE

I have been in a whole bunch of businesses for a number of years but I don't

think I have ever heard a more outrageous, self centered, simplistic
business statement in my life. You wrote it as if you expect people to
accept and
just go on using and trusting your product and company.
I usually take people for their word until they prove they can't be
trusted. I know when I have been swindled. You got me for the original
hundred
bucks but if you think you are going to get me for another you are crazy. I
don't care how 'powerful, innovative and wonderful your new product is I am
not plunking down one red cent for it.
Word of mouth is the best advertisement you can get and as far as I am
concerned you are going to get from me exactly what you deserve.

**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget?
Read reviews on AOL Autos.
(http://autos.
<http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000
017> aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

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Re: [oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and etc.. UPDATE

I have been in a whole bunch of businesses for a number of years but I don't
think I have ever heard a more outrageous, self centered, simplistic
business statement in my life. You wrote it as if you expect people to accept and
just go on using and trusting your product and company.
I usually take people for their word until they prove they can't be
trusted. I know when I have been swindled. You got me for the original hundred
bucks but if you think you are going to get me for another you are crazy. I
don't care how 'powerful, innovative and wonderful your new product is I am
not plunking down one red cent for it.
Word of mouth is the best advertisement you can get and as far as I am
concerned you are going to get from me exactly what you deserve.

**************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget?
Read reviews on AOL Autos.
(http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )


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[oopic] Re: Can't get ooPIC611setup.exe

Thanks a bunch.
--------------
This is in the about pane which tells me that we can distribute it
however we want to:

"This program is licensed to users of ooPIC processors. Additionally,
it is freely distributable for evaluation purposes."

So here it is:

http://tinsley.no-ip.org/files/ooPIC611Setup.exe

-Bill


--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, Dave Warner <BIMI_TYEDYE@...> wrote:
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> Here you are my friend!
> http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?
ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008

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[oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and etc.. UPDATE

Yeah, I've sold ooPIC products for seven years now and pretty much
got dropped like a hot potato. Now I've gone from robotics to custom
designed adult size hula hoops at www.yourhoop.com (it's not robotics
but ya do what ya gotta do!). I had worked countless unpaid hours
creating the ooBUG website, packaging design and an educational
curriculum...when overnight, Savage began selling their own stuff
essentially putting me out of business and this Ted decided HE would
be handling the packaging, graphic design (they're still using quite
a bit of my stuff but you can tell Ted's work easily - HELLO 1986!)
and curriculum even though at their request, I had been working on a
curriculum for the ooBug for a couple of months(after asking me for a
copy of the one I had just written for a Game Baord that Savage came
out with and never marketed because they decided they'd rather work
on ooBug stuff. )

For years I've been told by customers that they bought from ME
because they at least knew they'd get good customer service. The new
Savage model will be interesting.

Good luck!


--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, Dave Warner <BIMI_TYEDYE@...> wrote:
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>
> And I thank uou Rich for that patch! I kinda felt that there was
something going on at Savage Innovations when this OOBug came on the
scene and the other OOPIC products suddenly went on 'sale'. And I was
right! I thank you again for being so helpful for me. Now I have to
start all over again with another system - sigh!
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ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008

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RE: [oopic] Re: Can't get ooPIC611setup.exe

Here you are my friend!
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Re: [oopic] Re: Can't get ooPIC611setup.exe

I have the setup file and a server to host it on. Would it be kosher with
Savage Innovations, though?

-Jon


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