Friday, August 1, 2008

[oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and etc.. UPDATE

OK that one is my bad. The ooPic Pro series will probably end up on
an R board. I should not have left that out. The S board may not have
enough physical real estate.

New IC, new IC for USB, USB conn., 2 power supps etc.

Sorry for not keeping that clear.

Ted

--- In oopic@yahoogroups.com, "ray xu" <rayxu@...> wrote:
>
> And plus, maybe it would be a good idea to make the oobug into the
oopic C,
> S, or R form (Just replace the chipset). It would be a lot more
flexible,
> especially to me, and it would keep the R, S, and C still on-the-
shelf.
>
>
>
> ___________________
> Ray Xu
> rayxu@...
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> group member
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oopic@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of ray
> xu
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:44 PM
> To: oopic@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and
etc..
> UPDATE
>
>
>
> Ok now that you have cleared up things before I left, that settles
things
> for me; I may still go with the oopic, but still unsure. The least
> you/Savage can do is spare the compiler and the tech stuff.
>
> Also, there's one more thing your missing about the compiler
problems; its
> that when you have another language besides English installed on
the PC, the
> compiler gets very confused and doesn't operate properly.
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oopic@yahoogroups. <mailto:oopic%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [mailto:oopic@yahoogroups. <mailto:oopic%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf
> Of
> theo570
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:38 PM
> To: oopic@yahoogroups. <mailto:oopic%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Subject: [oopic] Re: Savage Innovations / Compiler / ooBug and
etc.. UPDATE
>
> Ok so that didn't go over too well... Please take the time and READ!
>
> I am sorry guys, don't blame the messenger. I am not the major
share
> holder in the program here, rather, the little guy that gets the
> dirty work.
>
> The decision was decreed to me and I passed it along.
>
> SO now we wont gloss over any facts... 2 YES 2 whole ooPics sold in
> July. Yup we can sure make a business out of that. Thats what? 170
> bucks worth of sales, care to run a business on that? When it was
300
> units a month no problem or even 100 but 2? Don't forget that the
> whopping 170 is before we pay to have the boards made and pay for a
> website and pay for packaging etc... We also can't buy the boards
one
> at a time, they come in hundreds.
>
> I truely am sorry that two different days had two different
versions,
> I did pass on the decisions play by play, right or wrong.
>
> It does suck, for me as much as you. Not only is every robot I own
> ooPic powered, some going back two A1 boards, I teach robotics as
> well and guess what... every student I have is using one version or
> another of the ooPic. I slipped once and used an avr, but I jumped
> back.
>
> I can't un make you pissed off and I can't make it all better. Of
> course we do not want you to leave, that would be silly. I know
that
> SI has traditionally been weak on after the sale support and we are
> trying to fix that. Anyone feel free to chime in and offer to do
tech
> support for free? Dennis did not want to...
>
> I will talk to Scott further about the compiler and see if he can't
> patch up the oEvent code before it is fully retired. The only two
> real complaints that I could find by reading back, and recent
posts,
> come down to bad oEvents and Vista issues correct?
>
> Dennis was not let go like some are trying to imply. Before my time
> there was another much larger partner who decided to quit paying
him
> then that partner decided to move along, thats when I came along.
> Things were bad and we had one new product that was starting to
sell.
>
> Please try and understand the business side of the decision, no
money
> coming in means it is very hard to dedicate unpaid time to that
> product. As much as we would like to keep on going with the old we
> personnaly cannot, we all have bills to pay and the new might pay
> them. Every decision made was strictly financial.
>
> I will move the compiler files to somewhere else. That site being
> down was unitentional, poorly timed and certianly not done on
> purpose. I will let you know where they end up. I am not even sure
> why it went down just yet.
>
> If you do decide to move along we are sorry to see you go and THANK
> YOU for all the years of support. If you read the above, you now
> understand why the decisions were made and we hope that with a
little
> patience you will stick it out for the ooPic Pro series.
>
> If you did decide to hang in there then THANK YOU to that crowd.
>
> If you have already swam the river all we can do is try to make a
> better product with better support and try to get you to swim back.
>
> Really, if you feel qualified and want to hang the moniker of SI
Tech
> Support on your signature send me an email. It is an unpaid
position
> for now but that will change in the future we hope. bigbug@oobug.
> <mailto:bigbug%40oobug.com> com.
>
> Jessica, It seems you may have inadvertantly left some of the facts
> out of your post and because we have worked together for so long I
> will not correct your mistakes in here. You may however contact me
> for a complete and correct list. Your financial woes in business
and
> with SI/Pentar were before my time.
>
> Ted
> Savage Innovations
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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